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Addressing Fco-SaGui's post about me

Posted by y3esy - December 29th, 2024


Hi guys! For starters, here is the post he made here!


I thought I would address what he is saying about me, because he has misconstrued it to seem like I harassed him for no reason. For the record, here is a post that I made about him that sparked this whole thing here.


For anyone coming from his post, please let me explain.


I called him out a while ago for enjoying nsfw of children, which he said was not true, and said that all of my arguments were false because of my age. I showed many screenshots, but he continued to say that it was not true. He began saying that I was sending people to harass him and that I was claiming he had ruined my childhood, which is certainly not true cuz I've only been in his fandom for a few months, lol.


Anyways, his behavior and defensiveness eventually led to him being ostracized from most of the Papa Louie community, as well as the fact that, yeah, he was interacting/drawing nsfw of underaged characters. I did not send anybody after him. Anybody that blocked him/spread my post did so by themselves. He takes issue with me calling out his sfw account. This is a complete non-issue. People don't just dislike your nsfw art, they dislike you as a person, so they're blocking all your accounts. I'm sorry to break it to you like this. People don't just not want to see your nsfw, they don't want to see your content at all. It would not matter which account I called out, and I called out all three.


Later, I called him out again for predatory behavior since he posted later that as "punishment" [his words] my "nsfw art", which were really non-explicit anatomical models, should be posted to pornographic websites, and although I've tried to have them removed they have been reuploaded. He was right when he claimed I was a minor, and him purposely posting my art onto porn websites as a way to punish me for calling him out, is bordering on sexual harassment, and is definitely predatory behavior, especially towards someone underaged. It might also be worth it to mention that he has also condoned/posted art that was made by a 14 year old onto R34. Of course, no child should be publicly posting nsfw, but you, as a "responsible" adult, should know not to interact with it, let alone expose it to more people. That is predatory, you are a genuine danger to children.


When I came to the site I decided to just block him and post in peace, but since he has decided to spread misinformation about me, I've decided to make my own post in response. I am 100% okay with nsfw and don't shun or shame people that make it, they are humans just like anyone else. It's just a part of life, one that I even encourage! I'm not here to kink-shame. The issue with FCO was that he was posting nsfw involving children, which is different than just drawing porn. Get your rocks off how you want, but please for the love of god just leave the kids out of it.


Take this how you will, everyone has their own opinion, but at least know what's actually true before you make a decision. I won't be posting on this again unless something new happens, but if you have questions feel free to leave a comment. Thank you!


P.S. I'm not Russian, I don't know what he's talking about


I apologize in advance for fandom tags, these are just the fandoms I know he frequents.


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How I hate these people who have "proshipper DNI" in their profile, especially minors, because they only falsely accuse other artists of pedophilia and other things, that's why they start unnecessary harassment campaigns against others just for fictitious characters.

Tumblr antis will never stop making me laugh because so many of them take screenshots of "problematic content" just to post it on their blog uncensored so they can show it to their friends and talk about how gross they think it is, but my question is...... what were YOU doing on the NSFW account in the first place?

@dragking21 Sometimes these people complain about everything and they don't know that they are fictional characters and that they don't exist and that they are not real.
But these people exaggerate everything by saying things that are not right and saying nonsense, lies, misinforming that they are unpleasant and problematic people so that people hate the person just for that.
And the truth is that it is sad that this fandom is being damaged and the people who start this drama are the ones who do not like this type of content and they are the ones who start this drama and that is why there is harassment, fights and threats. And that makes the person or artist feel very bad and intimidated by something that they did not do and it did not bother the community that in the end they decide to leave and lose interest in the fandom that they liked.

and that is not a very healthy fandom.

@Onionrady I'm not surprised that a fandom like this exists that only causes pointless drama. When I entered the flipline addicts server there are underage users who are just looking for trouble and the truth is that it is very toxic when it comes to talking about the characters and the art. Yes, it is problematic.
I better not recommend you to be on this server.

@dragking21 Yes, these people are bothering nsfw artists and causing these dramas. The fandom is going to be stained.
Not because of the artist, but because of the person who started the drama.

After reading everything, what you did seemed completely absurd and stupid to me. Falsely accusing him of being a predator and that he is a danger to the community. This already seems stupid to me.

All you did was expose him on both of your networks so that people think he is a disgusting person and so they can hate him.
(since you are from Tumblr, it seems to me that some of you are the ones looking for problems and attention).
On top of that, you showed it to several of your friends and users who are minors.
You are a minor, what the hell are you doing looking at a NSFW account? ... did it bother you? ...
The artist does not want minors on his NSFW account, he has always said many times not to approach his nsfw account that is for adults. He always puts his warnings and orders.

If you do not like what this artist does on his nsfw account you should have blocked him and that's it. But you, like an ignorant moron, decided to provoke him just because he reposted this character art from a nsfw artist that IS FICTIONAL AND NOT REAL. Besides lying in your posts about him, it makes you a lying and shitty person. You just framed a person who doesn't bother the papa louie community just by reposting art on his nsfw account.
Also, you have a nsfw account which makes me think you are a real problem and a hypocrite. Above all, you have no respect for nsfw artists. And the ones with "DNI-proship etc" on their profiles are problematic people who will seek trouble and attention. (at least this nsfw artist respects others with his content and even if it bothers him a little, he keeps quiet so he doesn't get into trouble.)

And stop saying "predator" already, this is annoying, stupid and absurd as it loses its meaning simply by reposting fictional art from various artists.

But the real danger I see on social media is you, not the artist, because he didn't bother you or anyone else with his adult material on his account, you just started it. All you're doing is creating enemies and hate.

You know, you better get off this platform because all you're doing here is hurting and blaming others with the nsfw content that artists make.

Even though the artist was calm and at peace without harming others, you and those involved just bothered him and treated him badly.

Because of you, there's now a lot of material on Papa Louie's r34 page and people are liking this content. If you hadn't exposed the artist on his nsfw account blaming him just for reposting another user's art that's adult, none of this would exist and now there are papa louie characters being desecrated.

So stay away from nsfw artists because you're a problem for the community.

hi! i accused him of being a predator because after this he decided the best course of action was to instead force me into nsfw spaces by taking my art and labeling it as porn, uploading it onto rule34, and encouraging others to do so as well. Even if it was wrong of me to say he was weird for drawing fictional characters [he is], do you not think that trying to "punish me" by dragging me into those nsfw spaces is wrong? I am a minor after all, and he should know better than that as a 22 year old man. he is five years older than me bro. also, i never showed any of my friends any uncensored art of him. it was all properly cropped and censored with a warning on top of it. many of my friends [adults and children] do not agree with the idea that fictional children are okay to sexualize, and most members of the papa louie community believe the same thing. I called him out because even though his nsfw account is separate from his sfw account, he is still the same person sexualizing those children. sorry if you don't agree, i don't feel like there's any way for me to change your mind anyways lol.

@y3esy But bringing it up to your underage friends is pretty upsetting.
And I don't think the artist drew or sexualized children. Seriously, you're misinforming.
But "punishing" you does seem wrong to me, but at least he was sorry. (Because he was upset and mentally damaged and doesn't like bothering people.)

And this time the artist already left you alone and hasn't bothered anyone else.

He never apologized to me, nor did he take the posts down. I never actually blocked him, hoping he would talk things out with me. I still don’t have him blocked. I can see how it is upsetting that I showed this to my friends, but I never outright showed them porn. I tried very hard to censor it as much as possible. And even then, children talk about sexual topics with each other all the time. I trusted them to be mature about this, and they were. If he wants to apologize for posting my art, it would be nice if he apologized to me directly. My messages are open and I have him unblocked on every social media account I have. He did sexualize underage children though, and he would repost a lot of art that involved young teenagers in it. I know you consider them fictional and thus no harm is done, but this is a flawed way of thinking and doesn’t actually make sense when you think about it. I’m happy to talk about this further in a civilized way, I don’t want to yell.

but it saddens me that this fandon is becoming toxic

@y3esy First of all, you should have talked to him on both his sfw account and his meme account instead of exposing him, then he would understand it easily.
Once a person spoke to him by message and he understood him. He always has doubts about that.
Although he never liked blocking people, he had to do it this time because things got really bad
Believe it or not, I don't think he apologizes because he never bothered others on his nsfw account.
Unless you apologize because you started this and not him.
He will understand.
But if you insult him it will be difficult.

Although I know the artist very well, if you are interested?

Is there a way that I can contact you somewhere other than newgrounds? Maybe Discord or somewhere? It’s much easier to reach me elsewhere if you’d like to talk about this more.

@y3esy Also, I don't post your art on that page.
He would never do it, but it was those people who did it.

He may not have posted it, but he did encourage it. It feels awful to have my non-sexual art be sexualized by people that are much older than me, and I don’t see any reason, upset or not, why that would be something that someone would just… do.

@y3esy at the moment not only here

That’s fine as well. We can have a conversation later as it’s getting late where I am and I’m tired. It’s good to talk to you normally

@y3esy The artist did not encourage or tell these people to post your art. Instead, these users posted it.

He did encourage people to post it, I have a screenshot of him telling people to do it.

@y3esy as long as you don't bother other people with their things.

@y3esy Also, that drama grew because you caused it yourself and Papa Louie's R34 content grew.

Cool. I’m pro-nsfw. It doesn’t bother me that people draw porn. It bothers me that people draw it of underaged characters and when called out for it blame it on the person who called them out. I really don’t have any problem with nsfw at all. I plan on joining nsfw communities when I turn 18.

@y3esy Yes, but these people insisted too many times and they didn't leave him alone. He only said it so they would leave him alone because he is very upset and didn't want to know anything.

@y3esy That will be difficult because nsfw artists respect each other's art and don't cause trouble.
But accusing him is ridiculous, all they do is provoke fights.

The sad thing is that there is already supporting character art from Yippy, Greg and real-life creators Matt, Tony and Mandi in r34.
Before fco took care of that by deleting everything on that page, especially the art that shouldn't appear like, fart, scat, and vomit fetish art and this only lasted 3 years thanks to him.

@y3esy If you don't like what NSFW artists do, it's best not to bother them with their content or what they share. Sometimes they get very upset when people tell them things about their art and accuse them of something and they start fighting and insulting them.

This is why there is discrimination against NSFW artists.

I don’t care about nsfw artists. I care about artists that draw children in sexual situations. They are not the same thing and I don’t appreciate you grouping them together like that.

@y3esy well I forgot that there are artists who do that

@y3esy After reading that, calling him a “predator” is absurd because he didn’t interact with you or force you into NSFW spaces, you just went into his NSFW account and got mad about it and posted this absurd drama.
Also, he blocked you for a reason, as in his bio he put his rules that no minors are allowed on his NSFW account.

He has always posted about it many times, that if a user is underage he will block you no matter if you like or retweet or just follow him on his account, he will block you.
He always checks his notifications and his followers.

Although he left the community because he realized that the problem is the Papa Louie fandom, especially the underage users are the ones who start the problems since there have been a lot of problems about the dramas that happened for several years and they are various.

After the artist left the Flipline community, the NSFW community decided to support him and he got a lot of attention for his Quinn art, several famous NSFW artists followed him for his NSFW art and sense of humor and also Quinn became the most popular character just because of r34's art (that explains why there were so many upvotes for her on Flipline's female plushies).

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